Edit this . The $3.2 billion price tag on cloud communications platform Twilio's acquisition of CDP Segment in October was sexy. What do you want us to do with the money? Almost all of them a couple took their money back, but the rest said, We really invested for the team. : Wow. I lean on my co-founders. When we first started we figured, "hey, we're students, we should be solving student problems." Came in the next day and was like, All right, guys. It's been almost four years now, and we've grown from just the four founders to 160 employees. How do you go about scaling the team? Alejandro: Very cool. Lets say, youd walk into a Nordstroms, and youd talk to someone. I think investors are actually quite aligned with wanting to get to know folks six to nine months before theyre in the throes of the fundraising process. Some initiatives work; some initiatives dont work. Peter Reinhardt is CEO and co-founder of Segment. We built the landing page and posted it on Hacker News. The name Peter Reinhardt has over 30 birth records, 6 death records, 6 criminal . Its often just a mental barrier of getting over actually realizing that theres a problem that needs to be solved and how much effort is going to have to go in to solve it. We should have been able to figure out analytically from the data that this wasnt working during our summer test. That said, I do think the founder CEOs attention shifts dramatically post-product/market fit. I think talking about culture is also going to be very interesting with our guest. People started picking up this open source library. We were clearly failing on this sort of customer sales side of things, and we were just spending all of our time building, building, building. Taylor told the team they should adjust their programming tool and create a simple analytics Application Programming Interface, or API, that could be used to collectanalyticsdata from any platform. The other, obviously, is just scaling culture. Twilio, a CX platform vendor with a customer service bent, acquired Segment, a marketing-oriented customer data platform, for . "Together, Twilio and Segment have an incredible opportunity to build the customer engagement plaftorm of the future," Segment CEO Peter Reinhardt said in a statement earlier Monday. Youre probably just avoidant of it. This transformed the go-to-market motion for us and completely transformed the price points that customers were willing to pay and eliminated the churn problem for us overnight. July 30, 1950. Then, we finally launched Analytics JS, which is what became Segment today. Calvin French-Owen, co-founder of . "I didn't think there was much value in it. Our purpose is to help entrepreneurs bring their ideas to life by sharing their stories via interviews. After their perspective-changing meeting Smith, Reinhardt, French-Owen and Volodarsky spent the rest of the school year trying to build products with which they could start a company. Tell us about what happened, and how did you guys overcome that challenge? Thursday, April 1st, 2021 - 12:35 am. Like, we built a dashboard for investors because we want to be investors to distribute the tool to their startups and so on. They have 21000 customers an engineering team of 144 and a marketing team of 43. It's fascinating how every startup has their own really individual, really unique journey. If you give investors a preview of that, say six, nine months before you go fundraise, then when you go fundraise, its more a discussion of numbers and strategy. Welcome to the Segment's second annual Customer Data Platform Report, an in-depth look into how organizations are using CDPs - exploring the data they're collecting, and the apps they're using to manage that data. Segment. They decided to focus on "building something for uses that we could test quickly," Reinhardt says. I think for our last shot, I think there might be a big idea behind analytics.js, this open source library. Or, the future of analytics looks like this. There was always this inside-out kind of view of how the world should work. Your father was a carpenter, and also, your mom was an art teacher. On an organic basis, sales were up 2.1% as higher pricing more than offset the negative impact of foreign exchange. Bloomberg Daybreak, anchored from New York, Boston, Washington DC and San Francisco provides listeners with everything they need to know. Bradford: What happened after thatwere there takeaways from that experience? My guest today is Peter Reinhardt, co-founder and CEO of Segment, the market-leading data customer data platform that was acquired by Twilio last year. : Amazing. "Finance can be an amazing enabler for your business" says Peter Reinhardt CEO of Segment, you should "use finance as a weapon to grow". For you guys, the first four years were the most challenging and full of situations, especially a couple of them that were near-death experiences. Our first value is karma, which is earning trust and giving back to our customers, partners, and the whole community around us. Total revenue grew 55.0% YoY to $300.1 million and was driven by growth in Oil and Natural gas segments. With my co-founders and an amazing leadership team we grew to over 600 . Its hard for them to understand the broader space. This will be a fair test of whether this thing has product/market fit or not. We Googled analytics tools, and we found Google Analytics, Mixpanel, and Kissmetrics, but we couldnt figure out which of those analytics tools was actually good or was the right fit for us. Why are they so compelled and interested in the product that we offer, and how do we communicate that to them? There are people who, when they see a problem, tend to shy away from it and be like, Oh, I dont want to deal with the problem. It may be totally subconscious. : Very cool. That, to me, is a skill that Im constantly working on. We had 100k left in the bank. Its 500 lines of code. SaaS Founders Who Make The Most Revenue Per Employee. I think there are probably a number of people on the team who don't have a college education or certainly didn't go to an Ivy League school. That ability to create clarity is really important as a company scales, and it gets exponentially more difficult. Peter Reinhardt - https://twitter.com/reinpk - is cofounder and CEO of Segment - https://segment.com/ Segment helps companies capture data from every custome. Peter Reinhardt, 18, aus Deutschland VfB Stuttgart U19, seit 2022 Innenverteidiger Marktwert: - * 23.01.2005 in Frth, Deutschland Peter Reinhardt - Spielerprofil 22/23 | Transfermarkt Jobs. Nach dem Volontariat ab 1982 Politikredakteur. Structural Info. They have a large number of employees. If you want me to help you with your fundraising, just book a call. Can you also send data to my data warehouse? I think if thats a piece of advice that I could go back and give myself, it would be to run straight at the problem. We had started reading a lot of Paul Grahams essays on, in and around, Y Combinator and Hacker News, which started getting me excited about that. : Is there any specific strategy, for example, that you use in order to get in front of those investors. Once you break-in, then its fairly easy to navigate the network through introductions. Bloomberg Surveillance: Early Edition with Anna Edwards, Matt Miller & Kailey Leinz live from London, Berlin and New York, bringing insight on global markets and the top business stories of the day. We did that. All Rights Reserved. Were building an analytics tool, like a web analytics tool, to compete with Google, Webex, Mixpanel, Kissmetrics, or Adobe Analytics. : Yes, investors are in the business of making good investments, not just investing. Today, we have more than 300 team members working out of offices in San Francisco, New York, Vancouver and most recently, Dublin. Studium Politikwissenschaft, Germanistik und Katholische Theologie in Tbingen und Mnchen. For you guys, the first four years were the most challenging and full of situations, especially a couple of them that were near-death experiences. We realized that we had one more shot at product/market fit for something. Why are so many SaaS founders taking money from Founderpath.com instead of VC`s? Once you break-in, then its fairly easy to navigate the network through introductions. Yeah. I'm walking around, checking out the dorms, and I walked into one of the doors and Peter and Calvin just happened to be there. Its crazy hundreds of thousands of lines of code trying to make this overcomplicated classroom lecture tool. Marketing people who were using tools like HubSpot to generate and post content, and maybe manage other type of things. We were a year and a half in. That needs to happen, but what shouldnt change is there should be some set of values that are literally the things that you value that shouldnt change if its the things that you value. We'll hopefully be alive to see the world achieve net zero by 2050, our children definitely will be. Ive never found misalignment with an investor where theyre like, Oh, I dont want to talk to you if youre not fundraising. Theyre like, Oh, great. And maybe we could actually be founders.'". Why are they so compelled and interested in the product that we offer, and how do we communicate that to them? 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That pays back in spades as people then operate on the same operating system of what everyone values inside the company. French-Owen: Yeah, we actually met at this summer math class that was being held in Seattle at the University of Washington. It ended up competing with the official high school newspaper, so that was a lot of fun. We basically spent the next year building out various variations of that product, and frankly, not spending much time talking with customers. : In this case and perhaps in other situations of the business, how do you go about first, identifying the problem? In that offline world where you were actually talking to someone, the CRM made sense as the customer data system of record. I also set personal goals once a year and reflect on them quarterly. Alejandro Cremades leads the vision and execution for Panthera Advisors as its Co-Founder and. We reflect on the annual plan once a year. Login Get Started. Peter Reinhardt on Github: So, the concept of ignoring the problem or even feeling like we were ignoring the problem got beaten out of us by each other as co-founders. Yeah. His net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. So, getting really clear what the customer about what the exact explicit problem that they have and the economic pain that its creating for them, and then how your product is explosively going to solve that economic pain. We work in different parts of the company now, but that dinner is a helpful time to reflect on whats working, whats not working, and what each of us can improve and do better. Segment captures and controls the movement of customer data through APIs, which can be leveraged for an organization's marketing activities. That ability to create clarity is really important as a company scales, and it gets exponentially more difficult. Then, we started beta testing it at the end of the summer. About a year later, we crossed one million in revenue and were growing super-fast. Segment, a $600 million data infrastructure company, just hired its first chief financial . When we were in college, we would just talk about different small computer programs that we can build. Peter Reinhardt: I find that the most motivating times for me are when it becomes clear that over the previous quarter of two, that I have failed at something because that, to me, means that over the next quarter, I now understand the thing that I need to get better at. I look for evidence of those four things. I didnt find that to be the case in our Series B fundraise. Your approach to evaluating and determining your marketing budget should be applied for each goal of an expense or investment. This 28-year-old crashed his company twice and wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars of investors' cash here's how he turned that same company into a huge success. Lee Evans CEO and Co-founder of SurveyMe, Chris Miller Founder of The Mission Center L3C. They called it Segment and applied to Y Combinator. Heat some water, preferably in a kettle, so you can pour it into this pan later. : About six months after we launched the open source library, we had a good bit of free traction some customers using the product for free. Segment was acquired by Twilio in 2020. So, how much is Peter Reinhardt worth at the age of 72 years old? The second value for us is tribe, which is that we want to push everyone around us to get better and be accepting of that when we feel that push from others. Date Of Birth. We did that. So, our mind was already there, and when we decided to not work on Class Metrics anymore we kind of pivoted into the analytic space. Peter Reinhardt on Twitter: @reinpk Peter Forsberg's net worth is roughly $54 million, making him the 15th richest hockey player in the world. Dateability aims to be the first dating app for the long-term disabled and chronically ill to offer a modern and compassionate user experience to a diversity segment that has traditionally been invisible and underserved in the world of online dating. The January reading for new-home sales is due next week, but the figure rose 2.3% in December. : I love it! So, the concept of a CRM being the customer data system of record doesnt make sense anymore. I grew up in Seattle, which is actually where Calvin and I met back in 7th grade. We believe in you guys. How can they position scheduling that meeting and keeping the fundraising conversation in the background so that they can target the discussion more towards seeking advice and then later on getting the money price, but making sure that its not going into that direction yet? Then we'd go and figure out how to build them. I lean on those direct reports, who are best a creating clarity to help me figure out how to synthesize at that next level. How did that go? CEO Peter Reinhardt. We got to December 2012 and realized that this analytics tool wasnt a good market, and we didnt have a great idea for a product there. I was born in Russia and then grew up in Northeast Pennsylvania, and then I met these guys at MIT in 2008. We made a pricing and packaging change where we rolled the two separate packages into a single package, and then changed our self-service pricing relative to our sales list price for larger contracts. Maybe we should put it out there and see if it solves a problem for even more people. Yeah, it turns out it solves a big problem for people. Build your CRM in an afternoon with Google Scripts. I loved the book Enders Game. In 1967 16-year-old Frampton found success when he became the lead . Dollar-based net expansion rate was 139 . Peter Reinhardt: It was great. Tell us about what happened, and how did you guys overcome that challenge? Thats what Id tell myself. If you like the show, make sure that you hit that subscribe button. What does that look like? 2023 Forbes Media LLC. We had people reaching out to us on LinkedIn demanding access to the beta version of this product, the hosted beta version of this product, which didnt exist at the time we launched it. by. Want to Read. Can you also send data to my advertising tools? Its like a snowball effect kind of thing? We're expanding our private beta at Segment.io, and in my dual frontend dev/account manager role I need a time-saving, flexible CRM. It was an incredibly distracting thing that we had mistakenly deployed into all these classrooms. Then theres a separate mentality you can take, which is, as soon as you see a problem, you go 10x-deep directly as hard as you possibly can at the problem until the problem doesnt exist anymore. We still had no revenue, so we went out and raised a 2-million-dollar seed-extension round from Kleiner Perkins and E.ventures based on the traction that we were having in customer reviews, but not based on revenue. "We were in a pretty downward spiral at that point. For us, Y Combinator was that key foot in the door, into the network of Silicon Valley and the investor scene as you meet some of the investors all at once, YC obviously has connections. Public Records for Peter Reinhardt Found. So very quickly we realized that, basically, it's not a good idea to disrupt classes where people are actually paying attention and taking notes on paper by asking them to take out their computer. After a year of working on that, we had burned down to maybe 100k left in the bank, and we didnt have that much cash left. They dont have time to talk to customers. We saw a year's worth of digital acceleration during an unprecedented time. : Very cool. We shouldnt have had to we actually stood in the back of classrooms and counted screens to figure out what people were doing. Alejandro: Then eventually, you had to put this out there. And if you got any value either from this episode or from the show itself, share it with a friend. : Very nice. Peter Reinhardt: I have four things, and theyre mapped exactly to our values. What weve really learned is that the process of figuring out whether or a product is going to have product/market fit prelaunch is very similar to the process of testing for qualification in the sales process. We reflect on the annual plan once a year. The world has some problems, and you have to listen and learn to listen very carefully to hear other people explain what their problems are hear other businesses explain what their problems are. Theyve seen the progress over six to nine months. Peter Reinhardt: We had just raised this money about two weeks before we deployed it, so we had to call back all the investors and say, This thing you just invested in, were really sorry, but its a terrible idea. : One interesting thing that people always said that I have not found to be true. I do find that vacation is critically important for actually going and reflecting on things. Its hard work to pick the few things that really matter. Segment was part of Y Combinator in the summer of 2011, it raised a Series B from Thrive and Accel, and now has nearly 6,000 customers. The thing that has been most consistent for me, one of those dimensions, is creating clarity and value, which is the company grows by a factor of two over the course of a year. Whats that transition from early stage to growth stage where you guys are. Im happy with Google Analytics and Mixpanel. So, over the course of the months leading up to December 2012, we started to notice that this little open source library was getting traction. In terms of growth, recruiting, and bringing people into the company, that, for me, has been a big on-mark. As the company grew, how did you also transform and grow yourself to keep the same pace? The first half of the year, we went from 10 to 12.5, which scared us. In that year, we went from 10 to 20; we had a really big scare. For us, that is the big transition were going through now, which is how do we figure out the go-to-market strategy and details of who we go after? "That was a big moment for us," Reinhardt says. Reinhardt became CEO; French-Owen, CTO; Volodarsky, president; and they brought on another friend, Ian Storm Taylor, a student at the Rhode Island School of Design, to be lead designer. Otherwise, the company simply cant ingest it fast enough. My co-founder is like, You know what? The Business Journals Between fall 2011 and winter 2012, the co-founders worked 80 to 100 hours a week creating a new product for Segment a web analytics tool for companies to better understand their customers' behavior. Since this interview Peter Reinhardt, CEO and Co-founder of Segment, and his team have raised another 175M USD to bring total funding to to $284 million and a valuation of over 1.5B. Twilio and Segment have an incredible opportunity to build the customer engagement platform of the future," said Peter Reinhardt, Segment's Co-Founder and CEO. Cloud 100 . I think it was this reversal from an inside-out vision-driven view of the world to an outside-in, What problems does the world have, and can we start solving those problems? Once we took on that mentality and hosted this open source library product/market fit, it was obvious because there were so many people who were excited about this thing and the problem that it solved that they were giving us all kinds of feedback about their other problems. : Going back to the discussion on growth, you guys have experienced quite a significant amount of growth, as well, on the employee side of things. So, yeah, we don't have the credential, but the MIT alumni Twitter handle still tweets out occasionally as if we were. What happened when you finally put this out there? San Francisco Bay Area. Then, I think when you get those right execs, then they can build out whole teams. : Weve raised a bit shy of 300 million in capital in the West, seven years. Peter Reinhardt: We reflect on our company goals every quarter. It was not at all the growth trajectory that we wanted to be on. Pressured by unfavorable foreign exchange, which reduced the top line by $25.5 million, and a 7.9% drop in comparable sales, net sales in the final quarter of 2022 fell 12.4% to $499.4 million. I grew up in Seattle . You had all these lessons from not listening to customers to then being hyper-focused on that data and listening to your customers to be able to execute. How do you go about embracing culture, and what are some of the key lessons there that you could share with the people listening? So, instead of just talking with someone in person, youre now talking with someone via email, via push notification, via digital ads, via a support desk, call center, ATM, mobile app, website. Do they have a history of delivering results, whatever those were in their function? We were like, We should put analytics on our classroom lecture tool. Whether its thorium reactors, online education, or space travel, Peter enjoys nothing more than diving deep into a new field of study. Perhaps they will also appreciate it. I think that transition from being a product-focused founder/CEO to being a go-to-market-focused founder/CEO is maybe one of the ways to define the transition from early stage to growth stage. We Googled analytics tools, and we found Google Analytics, Mixpanel, and Kissmetrics, but we couldnt figure out which of those analytics tools was actually good or was the right fit for us. Then, I think when you get those right execs, then they can build out whole teams. : I find that the most motivating times for me are when it becomes clear that over the previous quarter of two, that I have failed at something because that, to me, means that over the next quarter, I now understand the thing that I need to get better at. Volodarsky: Basically, long story short, we just hacked around on different side projects for a few years, until we settled on one and then we dropped out to do Y Combinator in the summer of 2011. We started building a ton of infrastructure. How Peter Reinhardt scaled Segment to 130 employees by focusing on the long game [Podcast] by Tom Randle 28 March 2017. If you want me to do your fundraising for you, click here. If you can leave a review as well, that would be fantastic. Starting Monday I will be working full-time on @CharmIndustrial, focused on permanent carbon removal via bio-oil sequestration. My co-founder is like, You know what? Peter talks about why building a business where the target customer is developers can to some degree sidestep the question of what company size range you chase . And if you got any value either from this episode or from the show itself, share it with a friend. Can you load data not just from my website, but from my mobile apps, and so on? By 2019, the company had raised $284 million in venture capital funding and was bringing in "tens of millions of dollars in annual revenue," Reinhardt told the San Francisco Business Times in January 2019. 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