And I honestly cant be bothered with any of this and choosing sides. We want to believe the highest paid actor of all time. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. In this message where he admits to cutting his own finger he trashes AH and accuses her of things. While Heard didn't name Depp in the article, his lawyers have argued that it was obvious she was referring to the actor. Johnny Depp, a Hollywood star whose career currently consists of a perfume advert, is suing his ex-wife Amber Heard, a Hollywood actress who didn't star in anything before she met him, for. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Richard Marks says family-friendly companies like Disney are the pinnacle of sensitivity, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Watch live as Johnny Depps trial against Amber Heard continues. The exes have been involved in multiple legal battles since their split. This is a morally grey case, and Amber Heard is a millionaire, she'll be fine. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. On her first day of testimony, Heard, 36, said the defamation trial was painful. As a society, its important that we believe women. for the content of external websites. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. Hes an addict, theyre both inebriated. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. a place for discussion surrounding the current civil trial between johnny depp and amber heard, moderated in an unbiased manner. No photos, no medical records, no nothing. Kaur commented. Again though, that would be a mutual fight, and him using way more force than necessary to stop her, not him chasing her down and beating her. Some people do. ", Listening Amber Heard's testimony. Listen to women, believe women and stop letting powerful men away with this behaviour. Amber Heard shared disturbing testimony about alleged abuse by Johnny Depp, and TikTok users mocked her. May 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM. May 24, 2022 at 2:52 p.m. EDT Actor Amber Heard listens, next to her lawyer Elaine Bredehoft during Heard's ex-husband Johnny Depp's defamation trial against her at the Fairfax County Courthouse.. By continuing to browse, you agree to the use of cookies. Why would he in the same message where he says all of that about her also include a lie about cutting his own finger to protect her? Which was horrible and disgusting and deeply disturbed. I just truly dont believe that he cut his own finger. Vogue may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. The British courts believed Depp beat his ex-wife. In fact, I observed one of the court officers going up to a group of Depp supporters in court and telling them to quiet down, to show respect to the witness on the stand.. However, one, or a few instances of MUTUAL physicality does not equate to domestic violence in my opinion. Its not a case of shooting himself in the foot. all for camera. ", 'If you think somebody is ahead right now, that could change. Johnny Depp engaged in abusive behaviours (name calling, talking about killing himself, etc) due to the abuse against him but I do not believe he is an abuser or Amber Heard is a victim of abuse. services and As a young woman alleging domestic violence against one of the world's most famous actors, Johnny Depp, she had no choice. The minutiae being combed through at the trial has come to feel less like a lawsuit and more like a torturous exorcism of the past, a thorough and painful raking over the coals of their four-year entanglement. Amber Heard was able to provide texts, videoand photographs to substantiate her claims. He said the op-ed was devastating to Mr Depp, suggesting that Disney wouldnt put him in the sixth Pirates film under this cloud. Richard Marks testifies in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Monday May 2, 2022. Ombudsman, and our staff operate within the Code of Practice. Does that give him the right? Edit: wording for accuracy. Well rally, we always rally, but right here, right now, it feels shit. The actress captioned the photos with a strong, simple statement: "One dress, four years apart. Its very hard to believe her; I want to, but the way shes coming across in her testimony just feels like its not genuine., At this point, Nat Barr said, You dont mince your words!. A sociologist who studies sexual violence recently explained on Twitter why a number of women who identify themselves as domestic abuse survivors do not believe the allegations of violence by. supports the work of the Press Council of Ireland and the Office of the Press The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. Ms Heard has filed a $100m counterclaim against Mr Depp for nuisance and immunity from his allegations. Again, not getting into the rest of the evidence just the pictures weve seen in this case. : 29.7K.: 951. TikTok masa (@lutizluva): all the comments I get from those who don't believe Amber, these "arguments" give me reason to understand that the person who writes them has no understanding of what the abuse of an addicted person is. yes she sounds like an actress! Fighting for Heard is going to set back feminism just as much as this case already has, I guarantee you. Amber Heard at the Depp v. Heard defamation trial in Fairfax, Virginia, on April 28. We free each other -to be who we are learning to become. They end it with J & L. After the statement comes a number of photos, including one of an early evening sky, and one of someone holding a bird while wearing a shirt that says May my soul shout love.'. Like jazzy said, we want to believe the mysterious and handsome master actor. the discovery that came out in that trial alone would be enough to scare away any studio., I use him as the model for telling my clients what not to do, a top crisis manager told the magazine. Some people do. Are you listening to her testimony? Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet Announce Marriage Split The Hollywood Reporter https://t.co/5t3nPFKm9f, N G E L (@MrsAngelMiller) January 13, 2022, What the F*CK did Amber Heard do now? However the cavity search? We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. But I think we are conditioned to believe him and not her. I do want to add though, the ppl on social media dogpiling on her and making fun of and mocking SA allegations are incredibly damaging and triggering to real victims and is not okay. Read the message. I'm inclined to sympathize with Depp. Its hard to know who is telling the truth or just because its their truth doesnt mean its everyones truth. Testifying about her marriage to Johnny Depp, she detailed years of alleged abuse in graphic detail. Clearly, the point is to establish Heard as a liar. Always. Its only now that her story has been corroborated by a man that her allegations are once again being taken seriously. They first met on the set of the film. I dont understand how anyone can support either of these people. Instead, amber decided to play victim. Does that mean he couldnt be? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I believe her.I believe her because of my careful assessment of this case, and my very extensive understanding of what DA is like, what it involves, & how perpetrators & survivors think, behave and react.https://t.co/RP4apBrpAU via @BBCNews. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. Depp, who was dropped from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise in 2018, was "asked to resign" from Fantastic Beasts 3 following the 2020 verdict. Why it's enraging that people only believe Amber Heard's domestic violence allegations now that a man has backed her up. I know a couple people who are on amber's side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because he's Jonny Depp. I believe both of them, its so toxic and sad to watch. All too often, allegations of domestic violence and sexual assault are met with scepticism and suspicion. Also, not specific to this case but people abuse other people all the time, very very badly, and get away with it! His story of grabbing her by the shoulders and sitting her on the bed to let him leave? The turd curse has struck again! I spend a lot of time wondering if everyones lost the plotif the erosion of empathy we see online has rendered us so inherently unkind as a species that theres no return. All symptoms of her mental health disorders. Pathological liar. Definitely think there is a control/manipulation aspect in the respect of ruining his sobriety (though at the end of the day he needs to take responsibility and say "no" and walk away from all that shit). hdsejs123. A reminder that #johnnydepp broke up his relationship not long after starring in a film with #AmberHeard So, why believe their testimonies? For more information on cookies please refer to our cookies And people are just glossing over it I am confused. Feel like Amber really hurt the bi community in more ways than one (which i understand is small issue in comparison). Where to begin with the online cesspit that is Depp v. Heard? A redden spot on the cheek doesn't count towards damage nor does a bruise on the arm. I think its also a tough situation because abusers that are good manipulators will have everyone saying no, not them which can be even harder on the victim. Thats batsht crazy behavior. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. The revelation has led to headlines like this. Amber claiming she gave her lawyers the pictures and that the lawyers are hiding them does not make any sense.imo she got boxed in and the only way she could think of to save herself is blame her lawyers. In my experience that's not really how memory and PTSD works (I remember things happening but not specific details if that makes sense). . Last week #JusticeForJohnnyDepp was trending on Twitter; yesterday, it was #AmberTurd. "Hear people that I knewsome well, some notmy ex-husband with whom I shared a life, speak about our lives in the way that they have.". Maybe Im crazy but I believe Johnny Depp 100% & I wasnt even a Johnny Depp fan prior. I dont know if that was a strategy from her attorneys, but it came across as disingenuous, rather than just having a conversation and telling us her testimony. Depp is suing Heard for libel in Fairfax County Circuit Court in the US after she wrote an op-ed piece in The Washington Post referring to herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse. this. The 2018 article does not mention Depp by name. "I believe her because of my careful assessment of this case, and my very extensive understanding of what DA is like, what it involves, & how perpetrators & survivors think, behave and react. Despite her credibility issues, the experts said Heard was likely to win the case. Dont ask Amber Heard to be a perfect victim. . He admitted it to his own doctor and those messages were shown in the trial. And I didnt see myself as a victim. Two are women who believe that AH being abusive is the "reactive abuse" that the psychologist used to excuse her actions. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. Mandel was also later informed that Depp had violently kicked Heard during an incident that took place in or around 2014. The company behind the makeup compact Heard used to hide her bruises even made a TikTok disputing her claims. "The Abused can't look at the tormentor. I think shes narcissistic and liar and tried to convince everyone that she was the victim. An entertainment lawyer has said that he assumes that Amber Heard may have thought that bringing up claims of abuse against Johnny Depp could have been a benefit to her. created content and their own posts, comments and submissions and fully and effectively warrant Press J to jump to the feed. MermaidsHaveCloacas 6 mo. Some of the messages were: Call Carly Simon, she said it better, babe, because his past relationships have all said that he was not abusive. When any women challenge them, they get shut down with insults about being old and fat and jealous of Amber. juviderm. bruises dont like to be touched, Depp leaned into his lawyer and smirked. ", During her testimony on Wednesday, Heard was asked to recall the first time Depp allegedly hit her. Amber Heard did everything she was "supposed" to do. Depp had to reveal a lot of things about himself that hes been trying to hide for a long time, she said. By signing up you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. On May 4, Twitter user @christinapykles . Too many people are using this trial to air out their sexism, misogyny, and homo/transphobia which is not okay. We've received your submission. Either way, there is clear cut evidence that comes from no other than him, but of course you are free to believe whoever you want. That does not make any sense. And that its fair play if a woman lies about abuse because the odds are the man would end up being an abuser anyway. Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online.. Depp, 58, filed a $50 million lawsuit . Mind you, any evidence supporting that he was physically abusive has been largely discredited. Tired of her flying monkeys as this is too close to personal experiences. Whats stopping the rest of us? I wouldn't think the two of them would come out in his defense if he had been violent. and indemnify Journal Media in relation to such content and their ability to make such content, But I kept quiet I did not expect filing complaints to bring justice. I just listened to a few mins. Johnny Depps former manager has now supported Heards allegations. advertising. pic.twitter.com/5JDYbVWuMQ. Still would be considered SA though. Its not an excuse for shitting in someones bed, but him being an addict at the time doesnt excuse his behaviour either. [Joel Mandel, one of the managers,] was informed well after the fact through communications with various house staff and security that Depp had been extremely volatile and had sometimes gotten physical with Heard. JD cut his own finger. One is a cluster B nutcase who has been physically abusive to her partners and is the perpetual victim. Code, or contact the Council, at www.presscouncil.ie, Even die hard JD fans should give a minute to think about this one. Could you imagine the rage you would have if your partner severed your finger? Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. Children but interest outside their waking hours.. August 01, 2022 | by AMOM-A-BAZILLIONMORE. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. I think most people that drink more may self report conservatively. (Ex: him drinking in front of her knowing itll piss her off). Yet day in and day out, Depps female fans flood the courtroom and stare lovingly at the back of his head. She seems extremely manipulative. ago. I know they both did ridiculous stuff to eachother in their own ways. Maybe bc Im reading a lot of the testimony and not hearing it I am so confused as to why people like him. If anything we have been conditioned by society to believe her and not him. Because the idea that women are conniving schemers is more readily believed than the idea that powerful, famous men are capable of abusing their spouses. I said it more likely BPD and there are some overlaps between personality disorders (such as Narcassistic and Antisocial PDs and BPD). I know a couple people who are on ambers side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because hes Jonny Depp. have you ever in your rants stated that you want to **** dead corpse of your partner to make sure he is dead? Why does such vile testimony consistently elicit contempt from Johnny Depp? you cannot possibly say this about everyone who supports Johnny Depp bc thats just stupid. Im not sure that I completely agree with this, think we are more conditioned to believe her which is why he was canceled and she went on to do AquaMan. The latest trial was related to Heard's op-ed in The Washington Post that was published in 2018. But his lawyers say the article contains defamation by implication because it clearly refers to allegations of domestic abuse made by Heard when she filed for divorce in 2016. I do believe that he retaliated at least once. In an emergency, call 000. because he is Johnny Deep. It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. Both of these guys have said at one point or another that Depp deserved it, that theyve always hated his movies, and that they wouldnt care if she cut their own fingers off because shes hot. Dont believe me? one of the biggest facts imo is that there are no photos that show any damage to amber. No human is 100% evil, not even Amber Heard. You might say Pirates Of The Caribbean is Johnny Depp and vice versa, he said. I dont think this trial makes anyone look good and they probably should have both just ended the relationship and moved on. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Yeah for sure. Pennington describes a scene where Johnny walks by, says "get your hands off my woman" and then leaves. I think in this situation they are both abusers and the victim. I dont think were conditioned to believe her at all. I just feel like if somebody severed my finger Id be so mad I probably would too. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Thanks for contacting us. Are we not witnessing a modern-day witch trial? "I will never forget it," she said. refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified, Everyone Practices Cancel Culture | Opinion, Deplatforming Free Speech is Dangerous | Opinion. Mondays testimony ended with one of Depps female lawyers cant have his first chair, a man, go after the little lady, am I right? Nevertheless, that hasnt stopped fans from pointing fingers at Amber Heard for the end of Jason Momoas marriage. "His behavior will be observed. Pip Christmass and Georgie Kearney / Justin Bieber. BUT only one of them decided to put all this shit out in the public initially, and that was amber. I dont like the term reactive abuse because I dont think that a victims reaction to being abused should be categorized as any kind of abuse. After that incident, Johnny understood what happened and was incredibly apologetic, and tried to set boundaries to leave the room before it could escalate into physical violence again. She messed up badly there. , of course they will say she did it intentionally. That is deranged. She said she asked him about a tattoo on his arm that looked like black marks. Same with amber expect the misogynistic part to ageist. I think its because he never stood up for Lisas friend Johnny Depp & allowed her into their lives. Sounds better than she did it because lots of drugs , yeah being wasted doesnt help but I am hoping if she was wasted then it was at least unintentional. The two were together for 16 years, which means their divorce might come as something of a shock. These are all awfully specific, humiliating details, and they only bolster Heards credibility. His 15 year live-in girlfriend and mother to his children as well as Wynonna Ryder (dated 4 years) have come out in his defense. I also believed that amber misconstrued many of his intentions as a result of bpd and Johnny didnt know how or chose not to understand that. He told the court that he was brought in to look at how the op-ed may have damaged Mr Depps reputation. The memes have been ferocious, sometimes consisting of a spot-the-difference comparison with domestic-abuse victims; at other times, televised courtroom footage has been appropriated to openly mock her appearance. I'm mindful that these two are actors. This is the most painful and difficult thing Ive ever gone through, for sure.. Journal Media does not control and is not responsible for user created content, posts, comments, Thats the only reason I believe what I believe, It may not be that they are so much attracted to him (aside from some die hard fans), as much as they love to be able to say that a woman is lying, Some people are inclined to think that a woman is the one being manipulative. 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