Well, wouldnt Le-Vel the company that hit $1 billion in lifetime sales just a year earlier have a vested interest in protecting their brand by controlling the health aspect of the criminal trial narrative? However. But I could be wrong. This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. The pregnant mother and . My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. His defense team are public defenders, so the State is paying for them. Shan'ann was either pregnant at this point, or about to become pregnant. KILLER dad Chris Watts revealed grisly details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bombshell prison letter, according to reports. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/08/24/christopher-watts-what-else-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-1418. The best way to lose weight is to eat fewer calories and get more exercise. One Reddit user pointed out some of the character changes in Watts before the murders. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. I think the gender reveal was the big splash for that. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. Kessinger says something to same effect, that Watts wanted to sell his home, but not right away. Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. It's mind boggling that Chris Watts was capable of doing this, and not only once but three times. Something was going on there. Is it safe to use while pregnant or could it actually harm the growing fetus? And although Watts has since been charged with the murders of his family and has been serving his life sentence at Dodge Correctional Facility in Waupun, Wisconsin, the internet cannot stop speculating about the Watts family murders. - July 29, 2021. He seems to be middle class, possibly depressed due to conflicts and internal struggles *possible psychological issues*, past violent behaviorhe seems like a silent passive-aggressive-explosive type that is unstable and unsteady. He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an . She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. She also didn't seem to be bothered by placing her own . Chris is a killer. Chris then brought his (living) children with him to his work site to . Since January 2016, Shanann was an independent representative for 'Le-vel,' a company that sells 'Thrive' health and wellness products. Chris boss spoke very highly of him in the first phone interview with the CBI. they were flirting long before they ever hooked up and each knew the other was interested in them. Only he took them out first, because he knew he was going to end her life as soon as she got home. He had already been contacted by NBC News. A lot of people wait until 12 weeks or so to tell others. But, once she started selling Thrive, her friend said she was making between $65,000 and $70,000 a year and that she had signed up approximately 200 people. Yeah, she was a real gem. Thats so sad. I do think he has some sort of an underlying personality disorder, diagnosed or undiagnosedthis would explain a lot of his strange and undetermined behavior patterns since childhood. Youre on to something here Nick. It is important to note that the amount of each ingredient thats listed on the Thrive products is largely unknown. In that picture of CW in that dumb shirt SW had made (just her, the girls had *nothing* to do with it) and made him wear, hes showing his teeth but he does not seem happy. Chris Watts Thrive Patches And Steroids: Theories About His Alleged Substance Abuse, Everything To Know About Chris Watts's Rumored Affair With Trent Bolte, The Man He Met Online, Holly Suzanne Courtier Conspiracy Theories: Sheriff Says Lost Zion Hiker's Story 'Doesn't Make Sense', At Least 5 Presidents Were Part Of A Secretive Society Said To Be Controlled By The Illuminati, Inside The Theory That Princess Diana & Prince Charles Had A Secret Daughter That Even They Didn't Know About, Man Shares Bizarre Story Of Touring A House While The Owner Was 'Tied Up In A CarpetIn the Basement', Is Scott Peterson Innocent? #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. I think chris felt tremendous pressure from the debt and third baby and family issues and feeling controlled and emasculated. Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters Bella and Celeste in Aug. 2018. On June 11 . So evidently she has been advised, and has been advised not to use certain products after all. Something was going on when she was away. Shanann thought or hoped the marriage was stuttering slightly. It seemed choreographed. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. Then the weekend she died she isnt feeling so hot. Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. Shanann Watts and her daughters appear to have been killed at their house in Frederick, Colorado, a town of about 8,600 people some 30 miles north of Denver, prosecutors have said. I wonder if she had specialized blood tests done. The young mother got an $80,000 job selling health supplements, and her work took her away from the family quite often, leaving Chris alone with the children at their home. I . What I found online was you can find out the gender at 18 weeks or between 16-20 weeks but I dont think she was that far along was she? In comments his mistressNichol Kessingermade to police, it seems Watts was an enthusiastic devotee. Shes even attributing Thrive to getting pregnant. The legal loopholes will be dealt with in due course. In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. It lends no pertinent information useful for anyone and its just based around, yet again, more judgment on Shanann. How did she know it was a boy so early on in the pregnancy if conceived naturally? He seems to have a minimal social life as well. Netflix's latest documentary American Murder: The Family Next Door has been the talk of the town lately, and currently, it's on the number one spot on the streaming app's top watched list.. American Murder: The Family Next Door follows the case of Chris Watts, who killed his pregnant wife Shanann, their . If Thrive promotion had to take a back seat during Shananns pregnancy, then their finances which were hanging by a thread were about to drop through the floor. I like nice things and having nice experiences. Being open and honest is the best way to prosper individually and as a couple. He's the best dad us girls could ask for. Idk how people afford $400 a month on the products though and a lot of people spend that or more that are promoters.. 1. Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. We know that Shananns dizzy product promotion in July and August dropped precipitously, so if she intended to brand Niko a Thrive baby, something changed a few weeks into her pregnancy. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. I dated a narcissistic sociopath and I get how incredibly cold and unfeeling they can be. Obviously he came to this conclusion and carried it out. chris-watts-does-not-exist-you-have-been-fooled-b 1/5 Downloaded from uniport.edu.ng on February 25, 2023 by guest . You are right Georgia that the sex can be determined between 16-20 weeks. He wants out but. 2 personal Customers to take The THRIVE HEARTBREAKING images show the soiled clothing and underwear mother Shanann Watts was wearing when she was brutally murdered by her husband alongside her two daughters. Sounds like a fairy tale pregnancy already, doesnt it? True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Interesting none-the-less. To her credit she was, and she did. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. (@ProctorStamp) October 23, 2020, RELATED: Everything To Know About Chris Watts's Rumored Affair With Trent Bolte, The Man He Met Online. Tons of couples go through this type of stuff! I never thought of Shanann possibly using these happy family videos with Chris before her death as a ploy to hang on to him or keep him from leaving. She posted a video of herself on social media announcing the pregnancy to her husband. The fact that the self-help book was put in the trash and the wedding ring left on the bedside table arent incidental. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. The THRIVE ELITE Experience is a re-engineering & reformulation of what is arguably the worlds most successful nutritional system, the THRIVE Experience. We can ALL agree (to some degree) that there was something off with CW and there is something we all cant seem to put our finger on when it comes to their relationship and they may have just simply been not good for each other, both with differing personalities, strengths, weaknesses and ways of handling life, setbacks, feelings, etc. Once the case goes to trial, experts may be called to prognosticate on issues relating to the economics of MLMs and the health benefits of this one in particular. the horric true story behind Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? Menu. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. Well if there was a gender reveal party at 15 weeks, I think you could tell the gender at 15 weeks. Cindy does not come off as unlikeable at all to me. Christopher Lee Watts, and his wife, Shanann, filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in July 2015, claiming liabilities of more than $400,000. It may be that she didnt know. Shanann was on board with getting pregnant as this would calm the household down, giving them something to look forward to, and keep him in a marriage that was sucking the life out of him. I'm sorry. Since Le-Vel classifies itself as a health and wellness brand, and the Watts case is massively high-profile, its possible this instruction [or advice] actually came directly from Le-Vel. Chris Wattsdoctor approvedhealthLupusnot feeling wellpregnancyShan'ann Wattsstruggled to conceiveThrive babyThrive pregnancyusing Herbalife while pregnantusing Le-Vel while pregnantusing Thrive while pregnant. Obviously he didnt think it through well enough but I also agree with other posters, he may be someone who is easily pushed over and goes with the flow but having all those strong personality types around him doesnt overshadow the fact that he was harboring a deeper hatred/set of feelings/energy inside, layered deep within himself. Well, it may be because Shanann didnt want to, and thought she could sort of control Watts into not going through with it. Matching outfits neck braces patches videos of her husband finding out about the pregnancy. As a Customer or Promoter, when you refer It begins with questioning and making assumptions that Thrive was the sole reason for why Shanann was feeling sick during her pregnancy before the murders. I dont think the affair and murder had to do with being spineless as I believe he was always capable of this he just never had the gull to stand up for himself before (I mean that loosely and sarcastically)by that I mean that he disengaged and went with the fun new model that also slightly resembled his wife. The friend said she didnt think the news should be given over the phone so she could either come over right then ,which was about ten pm ,or wait till the morning she chose to wait till the morning. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. This was supposed to trigger the annihilation that followed. Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. She also was very compassionate to Shanann, who trusted her implicitly with her daughters while at Thrive events and also, might I add, trusted her with her private thoughts too. They never deserved such a horrific fate. . But as you say, its significant if she knew and wasnt disclosing on social media. The THRIVE ELITE Experience has been formulated as a system to synergistically enhance your weight management goals while helping you to look good and feel good. Olivia Jakiel is an editor and writer who covers celebrity and entertainment news. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. Making the decisions. Shanann, 34, and her daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste, were missing for four days before authorities announced that all three were found de. Shannan Watts got involved with Thrive through a friend, and in a lengthy video, the pair discussed their involvement with the company and how Thrive has helped them. You feel like youre expendable. I went out looking for as much information as I could, I watched a YT video from Something Criminal, S02/E02 and it narrates a good spin on the argument that CW was also creating an alternative version of his relationship with SW to his friends and family as it benefited him. But thats the question were asking. Nickole Atkinson was the last friend to see Shanann Watts, the pregnant Colorado mom who was brutally murdered along with her two daughters, Bella and Celeste. This is the dumbest article Ive seen here yet! So I read that Shannan was promoting her Thrive sales, and she was posting about how Chris was using the patch and he was getting up at 3 am to clean the whole house, vacuuming, mopping and everything, the user continued. Javascript must be enabled to use this site. The house was brought by the Watts in April 2013 on a loan of $392,709. FREE! LEONARD's current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged . These health warnings would also have rung another bell, and one Chris Watts would have heard. Its all excessive and seems very very manufactured. Chris is an introvert. There was one commitment in Chris Watts' life that seemed to inspire complete devotion. Heres your chance to try out the 3 Simple Steps, designed to help you fill nutritional gaps and deficiencies! Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. I think you found the MLM hun. What we can say is no matter how successful Shan'ann was or how wonderful Thrive products are, the Watts family were in serious financial difficulty when the murders happened. I think he did use this separation or withdrawal narrative and allowed her to once again lead the conversations and try to pry and get more information for his gain and benefitthis would allow him to gaslight, manipulate, tell her what she wanted to hear. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". Posted by Shanann Watts on Tuesday, June 19, 2018. Over the last 7 months of her life the final 2 months showed the lowest output in Live videos, down from double digits to just 5, and then 0. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. Chris Watts began working at Anadarko as an operator six months ago, earning $61,500 annual, according to the Associated Press. So, if Watts was essentially abusing Thrive patches AKA, wearing more than one at a time, like the picture of him shows the side effects couldve been amplified. Sign up forOxygen Insiderfor all the best true crime content. He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. One very important question that was probably never investigated in this case is whether Chris Watts was being prescribed or doing Testosterone Replacement Therapy (aka Testosterone Steroids) when he committed murder. She was about to be ambushed. Its not that curious that she found out so early and named her baby before 15 weeks. Promoting The THRIVE Experience can help you live the premium lifestyle youve always wanted. shanann watts first marriagedream about someone faking their death. Chris had been pulling away from her for a long time but once she got pregnant he was trapped and she knew it. I mean think about she knew that NO MAN would put up with her except Chris. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. We can only speculate, theorize and opinionate on triggers and reasons why as there hasnt been concrete proof of what his motives were. + These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. But she didnt let up about it. Experience, you will get your Did she figure she wouldnt be able to sell Thrive anymore. Thats when the tide will turn, and it will be time to cash in chips. It is the fear of being discovered, of having to change your life or give something up. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. Two years after her murder, Shanann Watts' Facebook page is still accessible to the public. This was going to be a Thrive pregnancy. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. I think it had more to do with her controlling ways and if she knew in her heart that was why he was becoming distant or non-communicative, she really didnt know how to change that about herself, and instead amped it up until co-existing with her became unbearable to him. But, just a few hours later, when Nickole tried to get . "They were going to separate. OK honey. Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. Shanann Watts often posted about the product Le-Vel: THRIVE. On August 10, the day after posting the doll picture, Shanann traveled to Scottsdale . He was an average student, pretty smart. . However, 34-year-old Shanann Watts had recently enjoyed major success in her career, and her life boasted a new Lexus and paid trips to Mexico and the Dominican Republic. ELITE is everything you love from the Classic THRIVE Experience, but it has been significantly supercharged to target weight management from a healthy, nutritional perspective: THAT'S IT, 3 SIMPLE STEPS AND YOU'RE DONE FOR THE DAY! For now, lets deal with Shananns intentions to Thrive-brand her baby and Thrive-promote her pregnancy and the speed of her conception. And who would blame who for that? She can be seen in online videos and posts raving about it in an effort to recruit new users. Literally, take one look at their website after seeing the phrases over 10 million customers! and over $2 billion in lifetime sales! youll know that Thrive is just a huge multi-level marketing scheme. Our website services, content and products are not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Meaningful weight loss requires healthy lifestyle choices, diet and exercise, and good nutritional intake. Documentsreleased by the Weld County District Attorney's Office days after Watts was sentenced to life for smothering daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before strangling Shanann reveal just how into Thrive the couple had become. To strangle your adorable toddler?? Chris Watts, the man who killed his entire family last year with his bare hands, spoke about his usage of Thrive patches and how they affected him during newly released interviews with authorities.. Watts pleaded guilty last year to killing his pregnant wife, Shanann, and their daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste.Late last year, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole . Thats what probably sealed her fate. Shanann Watts Age. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. shanann watts first marriage shanann watts first marriage (No Ratings Yet) . This must have taken place in that short window between getting back from N.C. and her leaving for AZ. Kessinger said Watts lost 13 pounds between July 4 and Aug. 11. The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. Atkinson told "Good Morning America" that she was not surprised to learn that Christopher Watts had been arrested for the murders of his wife and . And he was always that way. Even Herbalife shakes are considered dodgy enough to require a doctors approval. It was like he was on speed.. In the post on the left above#DoctorApproved she admits shes Not doing #burn!. This was on a CNN site Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant. I agree with your points. Chris Watts has not been officially charged, with the deadline for them to be filed on Monday afternoon. Women who post videos of how wonderful their spouse is are often hiding something or attempting to build up a weakened troubled relationship. Just pray that her and her babies are ok. First thing Tuesday morning the investigation is gathering momentum. Im sure everyone here already knows this now but thought Id still add it. And I remember him saying he had a lot of rage when he killed Shannan. Awful New Update About The Husband Who Murdered His Pregnant Wife Shanann Watts And Their Two Daughters"We wish we had a different . I think all the abuse and toxicity of being with Shanann and realizing that someone else would want him and treat him well made him snap. It seemed like Shannon dictated everything with the kids and he just followed orders. Yes, based on her social media statements, it was clearly and explicitly on the cards . Chris killed his family for several reasons, financially he was ruined. There are also a multitude of other ingredients in the patches, which well get to later. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. [*] A lawyer for Shanann's family said that Chris murdered Shanann during an argument after he asked for a divorce. He learned of this case from social media and news. A complete autopsy of the victims of Chris Watts - his daughters Bella and Celeste, and wife Shanann Watts revealed that Shanann's fetus had been expelled from her body, which was buried in a shallow grave. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. But Shanann, who was a promoter for Thrive, a program from direct-selling business Le-Vel, decided to go to a work . Shanann sold the following: ItWorks! What strikes me as most interesting is that one of the MLM accounts was set up under her oldest daughter's name. There isnt a loss like it. For anyone who questions if he did, think about losing your child. He is allowed a small number of visitors, including a few friends, his parents, and his rumored girlfriend, Anna Nowak. The baby was going to be named Niko, the post says. He also said so, and others said so too. Phenethylamine is similar to the drug amphetamine, and may cause similar side effects, such as rapid heart rate, anxiety, or agitation, the information continued. Right now its in the bonanza phase as thousands, perhaps even millions of people pore over Shananns promo posts, and a few of them sign up for Thrive while theyre at it. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. The confessed killer was a regular, perhaps even obsessive, user of Thrive, a weight loss supplement that promises to help boost energy and increase overall health through patches, pills and shakes. Divorce and talks of separation are obviously ways to verbally and mentally distance ones self from a S/O when talking to a potential new partner but this can oftentimes be the catalyst as wellthe reason for the Familicideone has to keep up with the lie they have already told. R.I.P Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nico . As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. Now notice how quickly Prepaid Legal changed the name of their company after Travis Alexander was butchered. While some of the ingredients are basic vitamins and minerals, others like PEA (Phenethylamine), are a little suspicious. If she was this clear on flights, why wouldnt she know precisely what was going on with her pregnancy, especially since she had lupus to deal with as well. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. 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