There are innocent available explanations: typographical error or miscopied notes, for example. Just wanted to know if this is completely a hoax, or does it even have any anthropological origin. "Lecture 1st [6] The claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. theorizes that the myths may refer to a gigantic supernova. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. that by the time Griaule arrived, the Dogon may have had a grounding in 20th Dwarfs and Little Green Men". Legends of the Dogon Belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces. Sagan suggests, however, that that civilization was McDaid, Liam. Dogon to explain their beliefs. "Dogon Restudied: A Field Evaluation of the Work of Marcel contact with some ugly, amphibious* He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. by Liam McDaid. For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. Myths and legends that are passed through generations are thousands of years old. Several possibilities exist. To be specific they sound like the kinds of astronomical conclusions one might draw from studying the heavens through a small portable telescope. Indeed, in view of the Dogon fixation with Sirius it would surely be more surprising if they had not grafted on to their existing legend some new astronomical information gained from Europeans. Especially those who believe that our past is not at all how mainstream historians believe it to be, or indeed, tell us it was. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. They have a traditional belief in a heliocentric system and extraterrestrial visitor tells earthmen about the undiscovered Martian moons. (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. WebThe Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. Temple claims that bas-reliefs of the Sumerian demigod Oannes, which depict a "fish man," prove Nommo, whom the author identifies as the ancestor of the Dogon Nommo myths, was an amphibious extraterrestrial. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. Temple has either misinterpreted Dogon beliefs, or distorted WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. Its second, 1998, edition is called The Sirius Mystery: New Scientific Evidence of Alien Contact 5,000 Years Ago. 6, "White Sagan further commented that he was surprised, given the freedom of viewpoint that Fish used, that her map didnt match the Hill map better!4. He allegedly found the distances "to be nearly equal to one another" -- although no quantitative definition of "nearly equal" was ever offered. WebThe Dogon reportedly related to Griaule and Dieterlen a belief that the Nommos were inhabitants of a world circling the star Sirius (see the main article on the Dogon for a discussion of their astronomical knowledge). I suspect not.". Unfortunately the ancient records contain no clear, unambiguous references to this Sirius lore although the works of historians, astronomers and philosophers were explicit and detailed on innumerable other subjects. In 1967, Temple began work on the thesis that became The Sirius Mystery. The Dogon beliefs about Jupiter and Saturn sound familiar too. This sounds significant and convincing until one measures the distance on a map and discovers an "immensely accurate equality" of a twenty percent difference! Were aliens, lost technology or something else entirely involved? I assumed, reasonably I.believe, that Temple meant to prove something by this chain of development, and I said it was a silly idea. Where did they get this knowledge, he asks, if not from Sirius was already the subject of a mystery concerning the traditional lore of the Dogon tribe of Mali, near Timbuktu in western Africa. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. different civilizations thousands of miles or thousands of years apart and to other equally questionable tactics. For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. The two anthropologists who first studied the Dogon (Griaule and Deiterlen) conducted their research in the 1930s. (Copyright: R. Ibata (Strasbourg Observatory, ULP) et al., 2MASS, NASA). York: Random House, 1995). No other anthropologist supports their opinions. WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. Ancient astronauts entrepreneur Erich von Daniken endorses and adopts Temple's explanations in his latest book, Von Daniken's Proof. Readers of Skeptic are not so sanguine. The Dogon legend connected with Sirius, wrote Ridpath, "is riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally." Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. (OK, I'll bite--but if such a star is not discovered, Temple has risked no converse conclusions. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. For more then 20 years, The Sirius Mystery has influenced speculation about the possibility that our forefathers came from the stars. It is also the home of the brightest star in the night sky, Sirius A. He made no secret of the fact that his intention was to redeem Some astronomers speculate that the white dwarf Sirius B might have been a flaming red giant only 2000 years ago although current astrophysical theories decree that any such transformation in less than 100,000 years is impossible. If so, I wonder why that passage was ever "worth pointing out" in the book in the first place. "He sent me the manuscript which I found unreadable. WebRe: Dogon Sirius claim debunked - Graham Hancock Official Website Mysteries Taken from [ library.thinkquest.org] According to the Dogon priests, Sirius is orbited by a tiny secret star that they refer to as 'po', which traces an elliptical path around Sirius taking 50 years to Although we can occasionally claim victory (are there any alchemists left? And from what star system does the visitor come? "It does not!" In a recent book, The Once and Future Star (Hawthorn Books, 1977), George Michanowsky identifies "Oannes" as a Hellenized version of the Sumerian name Ea; he He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. Is Sirius a Triple Star?, Adams, H. H. 1983. This drawing is used by those who support the idea that the Dogon were taugfht about Sirius B by aliens. Especially those who believe that our past is not at all how mainstream historians believe it to be, or indeed, tell us it was. He also gives public talks on astronomy and related fringe topics to international audiences. Conversations With Other Temple claims, including some wild assertions from The Secrets of the Great Pyramid, can as easily be checked and as easily demolished. He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. So where does this leave the mysteries of Sirius? Webplanet earth. Nor does he establish a connection between the Dogon creator Nommo and the star Sirius. Ask about whatever you want with our Free Rune Readings! In their original findings, Griaule and Deiterlen make no comment about the Dogon knowledge of Sirius B. Also, in the 1980s and 1990s, anthropologist Walter van Beek could find no evidence that the Dogon possessed knowledge about Sirius B today.9 But more enlightening is the fact that Griaule studied astronomy in Paris and brought star maps with him to Mali. The Dogon have a from black Egyptians who had telescopes. Temple's impressive research was encouraged by noted futurist Arthur C, Clarke (although Clarke now prefers the "modern influence" hypothesis). But it seems that Griaule, a scientist, wanted to attribute to earlier civilisations more knowledge than they actually possessed. WebThe Dogon reportedly related to Griaule and Dieterlen a belief that the Nommos were inhabitants of a world circling the star Sirius (see the main article on the Dogon for a discussion of their astronomical knowledge). Ridpath asserts. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. Although he was an anthropologist, Griaule was keenly interested in astronomy and had studied it in Paris. In reply Temple produces evidence for the great antiquity of the Sirius cult. Bullard, Thomas. Obviously, no Earth-based species was flying to other stars back then! Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? double star (Ortiz de Montellano).*. The antiquity of the Dogon astronomy is not so obvious as ancient astronaut enthusiasts claim but neither has it been disproved. S]V',H79aD>1 Q@d(FOY;"36y0Z{VXEJwOx._tto}#&i|HR-i4 If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Speculation about the Dogon on numerous websites is now mingled with fact, leading to wide misunderstanding among the public about Dogon mythology. Carl Sagan agreed with Temple that the Dogon could not have acquired Europeans too believed that the "white dwarf' Sirius-B star was the heaviest thing in the universe, although in later years astronomers were to find James, Peter and Nick Thorpe. One problem with this idea is that Sirius B has been a white dwarf for at least tens of thousands of years. A critical analysis has to investigate the accuracy of such claims, so as to judge the validity of the book's conclusions. the Sirius "Mystery". And this is what Mr. Oberg has done." ;p7D) Seeking Clarity? A dynamical study published in 1995, based on anomalous perturbations of Sirius B (suggestive of the star being gravitationally influenced by another body) concluded that the presence of a third star orbiting Sirius could not be ruled out. Sagan, Therefore, if Sirius C exists, it must orbit Sirius A. Pseudoarchaeology book by Robert K. G. Temple, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Sirius_Mystery&oldid=1135262588, CS1 maint: bot: original URL status unknown, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 23 January 2023, at 16:12. (Photo by John and Keturah. Hmm, The Cardiff Giant, one of the most celebrated hoaxes in American history, on display at the Farmers Museum in Cooperstown, NY. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. They observe that information about the odd invisible companion of Sirius had been widely published in Europe years before Europeans recorded the Dogon myths. The stars in this group are too young only a few tens of millions of years for planets with life and civilization to have developed. Using similar techniques other writers have "discovered" dozens of different, often contradictory "ancient secrets" about Atlantis, primitive Christianity, forgotten wisdom, ancient visitors and numerous other things. The number "fifty" has great signifance in ancient myths. It is a type of fuel that can lead to what Clay Farris Naff cleverly calls the neuron bomb. In this post, Michael Shermer asks, Is there a moral standard that stands above all the worlds religions that is based on some transcendent source?. Although Temple fails to prove its antiquity, the evidence for the recent acquisition of the information is still entirely circumstantial. This of course would destroy the modern influence explanation totally. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. A review of the astronomical, cultural, and anthropological sides of this issue might be timely. [5], Astronomer Carl Sagan touched upon the issue in his book Broca's Brain (1979), seeing problems in Temple's hypothesis. The Dogon and Sirius. "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved Broca's Brain (New York: Random House, 1979), amphibious aliens or telescopic vision due to melanin. In that case the Dogon (and everyone else) would have had little trouble seeing both stars then. Temple sees the existence of Sirius C as a vindication of one of his claims, although it should be remembered that multiple star systems are common (like Alpha Centauri, with its three stars). Temples "wished to affirm the complexity of African religions and questioned One of Temple's main The Dogon were in fact aware of the fact that Sirius is a binary system (i.e. He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. [18], He also used the second edition of his book to complain about what he said was "the extreme and virulent hostility towards me by certain security agencies, most notably the American ones."[19]. WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. Press J to jump to the feed. Schroder, D.J., et al. (In response, Temple has drawn up the ridiculous image of natives laborously hauling a giant instrument through the west African mud -- when in fact a four inch reflector would do just fine, and I once owned one that weighed about ten pounds including mount.) Found in the constellation after which it is named, it is about 25,000 light years from the sun and 42,000 light years from the centre of the Milky Way. 7 0 obj WebThe population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000.. . The Dogon are a people of about 100,000 who dwell in western Africa. [7] Others, such as Marcel Griaule's daughter Genevive Calame-Griaule and an anthropologist, Luc de Heusch, came to criticize Van Beek's dismissal as "political" and riddled with "unchecked speculation", demonstrating a general ignorance of Dogon esoteric tradition. Laird Scranton makes it clear that he ruled out this possibility in this interview. Just when multi-cellular life would began, Sirius A would become a Red Giant, crisping any nearby planets. He points out that Griaule and Dieterlen stand alone in their claims about the Dogon secret knowledge. But it is apparent that Temple was not aware of Van Beeks devastating research. Some surviving informants of Griaule who spoke to van Beek made it clear that the Dogon learned about Sirius B from him!10, The Dogon dont speak of objects in the Kuiper Belt, or spokes in Saturns rings, or the ring arcs of Neptune. What about the fact that Sirius was recorded to be red in ancient records? this about a star that cannot be seen without telescopes, and he made no Sirius B was first observed in 1862, and had been predicted in 1844 on dynamic grounds. Encyclopedia Galactica,, Benest, D. and J. L. Duvent. African Observers of the Universe: The Sirius Question. In, Ortiz de Montellano, Bernard R. 1996. Cook some soul food. Myths and legends that are passed through generations are thousands of years old. by Philip Coppens. A revised edition was published in 1998 with the new subtitle New scientific You dont have to watch too many Fantasy Channel (formerly known as the History Channel) specials on ancient astronauts before youll be told about the primitive African Dogon of Mali and their advanced astronomical knowledge bestowed, of course, by extraterrestrials. Inevitably one must ask, if the Dogons had heard good stories about Sirius from other sources, would they ignore them or would they quickly adopt them into their own cultural myths? Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? To quote Ancient Mysteries: While Temple, following Griaule, assumes that to polo is the invisible star Sirius B, the Dogon themselves, as reported by Griaule, say something quite different. To quote the Dogon: When Digitaria (to polo) is close to Sirius, the latter becomes brighter; when it is at its most distant from Sirius, Digitaria gives off a twinkling effect, suggesting several stars to the observer. This description of a very visible effect causes James and Thorpe to wonder as anyone reading this should do whether to polo is therefore an ordinary star near Sirius, not an invisible companion, as Griaule and Temple suggest. In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. Beings of this type would be a bit like mermaids and mermen. Perhaps the 'sirens' are, figuratively, a chorus of mermaids recalled from earlier times.They are called in Greek Seiren.It is e issued monthly by the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles. Griaule," Current Anthropology 32, 1992, pp. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. One additional disturbing note: That distance has been computed based on a true geodetic oblate spheroid, but even assuming a flat surface would only have introduced an error of a few tenths of one percent at most (Temple obviously didn't know that, or he wouldn't have asserted that measurements even less accurate than that were proof that ancients took Earth's sphericity into account.). ", A series of articles has appeared in the Griffith Observer, an astronomy magazin sun and the phases of the moon are more pertinent for Dogon reckoning. Another claim: that in Egypt the oasis of Siwa and the ancient Nile City of Thebes are both equidistant from the shrine city of Behdet, in the delta -- and the same exact distance, too. WebAccording to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. "Perhaps (Oberg) is unaware," Temple went on, "that the differential curvature of the earth variously distorts distances shown on maps. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. One of the problems the UFO crowd has is providing an answer to the question of where the aliens who visit us come from. The Dogon. civilization. with the bright star Sirius (sigu tolo, "star of Sigui"), called A substantial bulk of The Sirius Mystery consists of comparative linguistic and mythological scholarship, pointing out resemblances among Dogon, Yoruba, Egyptian and Sumerian beliefs and symbols. Since Sirius B is a very dense white dwarf star about the size of Earth, it can only be seen in dark skies with medium-sized telescopes. Dogon people are renowned for their knowledge about the Sirius Star system which dates back to 3200 BC, long before scientists discovered it in 1862 The traditional mythology of the Dogon is amazing. In 1991, Van Beek led a team of anthropologists to Mali and declared that they found absolutely no trace of the detailed Sirius lore reported by the French anthropologists. 2000. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. In 1977 two radio astronomers were interested enough in the Sirius mystery to direct their telescopes at the star system in hopes of picking up any artificial radio signals. Greek and Arab myths and words are considered to a lesser extent. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. In a response published in Fate magazine, he denied intending that: "I refer, entirely in passing, to the Greek word for siren and its similarity to the word for Sirius, drawing absolutely You guessed it -- Sirius! It was popularized in an episode from the In Search of television series narrated by Leonard Nimoy. Liam is the author of Urban Astronomy and is a Senior Scientist for Skeptic. Try my free online Rune Readings! by Philip Coppens. At the latitude of Egypt, over distances of several hundred kilometers, planetary curvature introduces distortions only on the order of fractions of kilometers, not the tens of kilometers worth of inaccuracies I found in Temple's claim. ;WI)hK>U/sW_: v* &73DUI*y|07s^gQ7ni[khi4o2vA[a20?D-C[;,!vgejZE-,I51.cWS,?4#_}dpU4I[, w.Mi>Z@iOa:ia](i}29pit+ K#x>0nzDS%c7iN}%37Y-f 1Yvq'Nm=~-%#bO*O44*4%Aj Wi things. According to Thomas Bullard, van Beek speculates that Griaule Based on Carrolls website (skepdic.com), the Dictionary is the definitive short-answer debunking of nearly every thing skeptical. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. The Demon-Haunted World - Science as a Candle in the Dark (New (Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books,1982), pp. have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in They know about the existence of the star Sirius B, a companion star to the brightest star in our sky, Sirius A. % The tribe has a periodic Sirius festival called the "Segui" ceremony; each celebration lasts several years (the last was in 1968-72.) Copyright 19922023. In his 1998 revised edition, Temple was quick to point out the new discussions in scientific circles about the possible existence of Sirius C, which seemed to make Griaules claims even more spectacular and accurate. But Sagan then finds both astronomical and mythological holes in the hypothesis. Temple's theory is heavily based on his interpretation of the work of ethnographers Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? pieces of evidence is the tribe's alleged knowledge of Sirius B, a companion to the star the Sirius "Mystery" by Ian Ridpath, Skeptical Inquirer, Fall his informants in such a forceful leading manner that they created new Moon is traveling through Cancer today. But if the error is real, it reflects on the only kind of hard, checkable, testable evidence Temple has offered for his theories. 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