Jul 30, 2022. That's pretty cool. Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? Posts. G22Model Year: 2020 + We should have more pans ready by March". If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. Heh, i'm assuming they immediately tuned it, but for a brief second this was probably an engine swap car with the new engine making less power than the original one. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Former Technician // E90 335D // G20 330i, BMW Lvl 1 Master Technician, HV Specialist, Gen 5 Certified. It sounds like it may have also dropped a valve, so in other words, I need a new engine. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? Posts. Question was mostly for my curiosity to determine if it's something I'd want to do down the line maybe. M4. No need for a b58. F90Model Year: 2018 + Previous Generations; . 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. 4. However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. Tags 320i e90 e92 engine swap n20. I wouldnt. Held rain or shine. I'll take one for the team, and I will happily let someone use my car to find out. You must log in or register to reply here. F40Model Year: . I have personally witnessed a 318i transformed into a 325i on an e46 chassis and my gosh there are so many differences from brakes, suspension, diff, engine, tranny, electronics, cluster, steering update, seats, even rear parcel shelf where rear speakers sit is different material, wiring, interior bits and pieces. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. VS - Stage 3 (E Series N54/N55) Rev 3 . The 340i downpipe is machined from SS304 aircraft-grade stainless steel and are tig welded in hous E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. 08-12-2021, 12:16 PM. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Except the M2 is actually a very nice looking car. N55 is my preferred engine in the E92 lineup. I received ended car on 28 March, how I remember. It would be one hell of a sleeper. I bought the 4 cylinder because it is my daily driver and dont want to spend a ton on gasoline but it just lacks torque. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. That sounds like a very very very complicated swap if you're trying to run it off of the factory systems. I had been thinking about swap since October, but made it in March. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. the new b58 engine is more lighter, it is a straight six engine, the torque are better than s65. So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. VS - HeadPort Plugging Kit N54 N55 S55 B58. The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. I wonder how difficult the swap is, considered it when I had mine. s65b40 or s85b50 are the most popular engine. . You are using an out of date browser. gmail ! Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . The guy's N55 let go on track, so decided to swap a B58 into it. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! Shipping: Availability: "Due to the overwhelming popularity of our oil pans we are doing our best to keep up with the orders. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. CALL A PRODUCT EXPERT NOW AT 602-437-2101 Install Effort $2,449.99 Wastegate Flange Selection Dual 44mm Wastegate Flanges + $2,599.99 4. . Good point. That doesn't sound right. I wouldn't call this a "swap" as you can't just swap the engine. which one will u pick to swap in it? Hamburg, PA. Hamburg Automotive Swap Meet & Car Corral, Hamburg Field House, 127 S. Fourth St. (rear), Hamburg, PA. Held 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Over 100 indoor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces plus car corral. so i want to do an engine swap and get the b58 on my 428i! com> Date: 2017-09-13 5:27:43 Message-ID: CABfawhkkZutU417RBw6+CRto=9P1G8ay0NS_OVxAhrpTL_o2hw mail ! E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. Home / N55. With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. Its not worth it at all. By the time you're done, you prolly could buy a 335 twice over. Where else to find out about the problems with such a replacement for X-drive. BMW N52 Performance Mods - Intake Upgrade. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. Anyone know if they offer the build kit for us to build the trans ourselves? The original 325i was quieter on gravel roads in the rear compartment compared to the transformed car. I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. No light on the dash no check engine it will be as if it came from the factory. JavaScript is disabled. Depending on the specific model you're looking at, power output ranges from 302hp and 295lb-ft ll the way up to 365hp and 369lb-ft. E-Chassis DCT Swap $6,500.00 Tax included. I haven't found any definitive answers for this question but how interchangeable are the N55s from different years and chassis, so I was hoping the wisdom of the forum could illuminate what would work with what. A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. now ive been told it is very possible and that it can be done but its going to take alot of money putting this in but im willing to do it. I know that B58 has a better intercooler and overall engine cooling, which allows it to make more efficient power. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Are you saying that the cylinder walls are bare aluminum? E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. 8. You're a fucking G for taking the time to write this out for the rest of us that are inevitably gonna blow our HP50. Mine was a 6-speed. The main candidate for an engine swap is the B58 powerplant. 1 marcus45A1 5 mo. If you like the e9x, but an n54 version thats been a victim of rod bearing failure or turbos that need replacing. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Regular price $49.95 View. On top of that because it's a closed deck the cylinder walls aremy as well cooled as the N54 and that will only expedite the failure. There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. Do you have more photos of the swap process? Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. Is it worth it? 5. I wouldnt call this a swap as you cant just swap the engine. Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I think the fact that the OP hasn't said anything shows a lot. Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! Nikasil coating on the cylinder walls. TF-Works BMW E30 K-Swap Kit - Phase 1. 5. Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. It is not financially viable. In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". I'm not dead set on an E90, I'm dead set on a E92, E90 - has 4 doors E92 - has 2 doors E93 - convertible. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. I'd entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine) 1 For these guys it wasnt challenging, also my car was fourth or fifth with swapped engine, which made by their hands). Bimmerpost Model Selection. FIRST b58 swapped e36 470HP 700+NM DRIFT 34,728 views Sep 22, 2021 857 Dislike Share Save Ostap Demkiv 256 subscribers B58B30A 2018 M140i engine 403bhp 700Nm 100RON tune @afterfix SCS Delta GDI6. I would reach out to them as a resource, they'll probably be ablee to provide some insight into the process, even if they worked with an S55 rather than a B58. I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. Before we begin, I have an F31 Touring, which was only offered in the US with the N20/N26, B48 or N47. 2023 X3 M40i | 2018 M3 Comp - Sold | 2017 340i - Sold | 2014 328i - Sold, I'd love to have the f8x chassis with s58 and dct and maybe g8x suspension. 1. So the swap itself isn't really worth it in your opinion? That is impressive! I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. From $650 View. Ordinary person who buys bit by bit first either through dealer or outsourcing was something like $15k plus more like $20k. Cool idea. Waste of time and money. Items for everyone including white elephants. Dorch products are well-known when it comes to N55 fueling solutions. I've been on real-oem seeing what part numbers are the same between the 435 and the 440, and a lot of the modules match up, even things like front and rear subframes match and things like that.. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. 95C9EB54-ACFF-4E23-AD5D-8C082172A175.jpeg. BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > BMW E90 320i engine swap to 335i. Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. But I support this swap 10000%. 5. . It's not even sleeved. I feel like it would have been cheaper to get a Supra and then dump a few upgrades but very excited to see how this goes if you ever find more info on it! However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. A friend of mine I chat with down at rk tunes sent this screenshot to me after it was sent to him. Reliability + performance. Rep. 296. Mind you once you are done you will probably need preventative replacement parts on the engine that you have sourced second hand and that's several k more to bring it to 'new' condition. Meaning I don't think it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels. hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. I don't have either ATM. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. My question are. LOVED it right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it. Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! Drives: '20 . M4. _____ Have you noticed any difference in torque delivery because of the flywheel change? The worst engines ever designed, IMO else to find out about the problems with such a replacement X-drive. Flange Selection Dual 44mm Wastegate Flanges + $ 2,599.99 4. is an impossibility and we should more. 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