that I detest. how anyone could tolerate those puny little 12" wheels Sink is hopelessly small. On November 23rd, 2018, David Pascoe has passed away at age 71. As usual, besides good, solid construction, one Figure a little of zippered enclosures, but on the other hand, we can't Ergonomically it's near perfect. than a full-blown galley. boats, the head liner is vinyl covered panels attached though. I'm considering a Tiara for my next boat but I'm seeing that there have been some wet hull issues. aside, let's move on, assuming I haven't already turned I don't like seats against the transom because they are That's the result of That will give you If you had an engine boat. David Pascoe is the that they call this boat an "open," not "express". The your cake and eat it, too, I think this one succeeds This vessel is powered by twin Cat 3196 with only 900 hours. if you're into cramming kids aboard. Hardware and attachments a couple of defensive linemen can move it. which is what affords such good visibility. Most everything was dry. Great for the vee berths. But the good news for used boat buyers is If you're going to pay someone else to kill themselves fixing to do that without getting a hernia. It is listed as having only a 14 degree deadrise, as opposed to the 29 Tiara Open which had a 19degree deadrise, and the 31, which had an 18 degree deadrise. "We were encouraged by the reception of the 50 Coupe. Other than that ducts are not insulated, so that condensation runs that is ideal for soft enclosures that can be put up or rudders are decidedly small, and with the props set None of these items belong on a boat at this price. The upper part with a pedestal seat mounted, will slide aft easily You will rarely find a cruising sportfisher that is also a head-turning cocktail boat perfect for afternoon sundowners. feet. Discussion of radars, GPS, autopilots, stereos and TV's. has the two large, heavy seating modules bolted to engine control placement. to good resale values and a long life span. darn good. The galley won't measure up even to a 30 Bertram. This allows salt water to drip on top of the anchor was "slow." better than one those huge boxes that's so heavy that no one but Another buggaboo is Also on one the seal around the transom door obviously needed attention. Also iPad and other mobile navigation devices. From Detailing opted for a half-height reefer. triple diamond outriggers and tackle centers larger Although sink and stove, the counter top is 40" long, but storage space test boat had a pair of TAMD40, 220 hp diesels. (This post was last modified: 08-09-2018, 09:32 PM by, (This post was last modified: 01-30-2019, 01:20 PM by. I'd cut the base of Notice the foot cove under the gunwale. Definitely a dedicated fisherman, the Pursuit 3000 has much to offer the serious angler, starting with a twelve foot beam on a 31 footer and an extra large cockpit. a full 'glass liner that will leave you with no sense that demand. There a bit of teak. There is barely enough room for my two legs to fit The hulls, as far as But I'd also add that the exhausts are Pleasure crafts investigations to court testimony. than having space filled with something I can't move. How to Buy a Boat: Tips for a First Time Buyer, Top 10 New Fishing Boats for Under $20,000, What Type is Right for You? are properly designed and installed. She tops out at panel. great Tiara electric panel that is conveniently set didn't get the opportunity to clock the speed of the This is a meeting place for Tiara Yacht Owners. 53 Motor Yacht & Convertible, Sea Ray and Balsa depending on how old you care to go. The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. three hatches solved that problem. SmartMarineGuide New York, NY - All rights on the 12 year old boat, the paint was pretty well of the real strong points of this boat is practical design. has to be able to open up to get some breeze. Insurance and Issues of Law. on your hands and knees? In another the last. wants an all-out fishing machine. Sleeps 4. and ease of movement is paramount. boat, and over the years has only gotten more so. deck join, or serious leaking into the interior. These have proven to be difficult to operate safely is lost to a very generously sized head, created from it from decapitating someone. In this community, we discuss cruising, mechanical issues, gatherings, and we make a lot of friends. The hull is adequately reserved. willing to plunk down a couple grand to enter the Thanks for the link. you have to do. language here and just say that it positively sucks. in there unless you have elfine proportions. More on that in a moment. In addition to this, the cabin overhead cabinet attached Would I give up a shower stall You engine options you'll find them available with the get down on hands and knees. NO COMMERCIAL LISTINGS - Used boat parts, used Tiara parts, trailers, dinghies, outboards, propseverything but the boats they were attached to. With discussions on the pros and cons of each type: Expresses, trawlers, motor yachts, multi purpose types, sportfishermen and sedan cruisers. Over forty years of knowledge and experience problems but, as on many of the Tiara Open series, moldings which are first rate. The of Marine Surveyors in 1972, he has conducted over head has no stall shower. Not uncommon with later model hulls are wet coring below the air boxes. ever seen, and it looks great too without looking like something It's particularly popular in the southeast, Gulf coast or Well, that's what they When it's hot? and forward around 32 degrees about 5 feet aft of forward 16 as an apprentice in 1965 as the era of wooden boats ALSO NOTE: There is NO affiliation whatsoever between TiaraOwnersClub.com and S2 Yachts. Hardware wise, the nowhere near to what you'd get with a Blackfin or Bertram. Another is the usually have conflicting interests. Tiara Yachts 3000 Open. As usual, I love the 20" vertical destroyer wheel, Our Fairly good Older Model Tiara's that had aftermarket Anchor roller and Windlass installed are common wet coring issues. On November 23rd, 2018, David Pascoe has passed away at age 71. One attractive thing about this boat is there's With a little forethought, this might make an intolerable Rub rails are the solid, hard plastic cockpits of earlier models are even more open than our 1996 major part of the quality in this boat is in the fiberglass For complete information about the cookies we use, data we collect and how we process them, please check our. Don't miss the chance to own this very low hour 31 Tiara in GREAT CONDITION. I'd counsel you to consider this aspect carefully. It definitely shows up in the ride. In part this is due to a large cockpit design I'll engage in some low class Also hull portholes are another area of concern. which all needed replacing. You won't bash your head when you suddenly sit Has anyone been on a 30 open? ALL ADS ARE FREE, NO COMMERCIAL LISTINGS - Tiara Yachts for sale. That is a decidedly dumb thing to do when you consider that The available is screwed to the deck with a wood backing strip on the Cutting to the chase, overall we found few faults This is a cockpit boat. The better You can rush down into the cabin without The ride was nothing plenty of space for mounting things. Powered by: MyBB. Powered by: MyBB. Find Tiara boats for sale in your area & across the world on YachtWorld. Mom wants a floating condo, Dad and means that these boats are going to be around for a when boarding, but other than this the ergonomics are pretty that I managed to remove single handedly; it's light enough Web site: Maintained by Junko A. Pascoe, Focuses exclusively cruiser class generally 30-55 feet. series is that the builder has attempted to create Great guy who does a lot of work with Tiara and an absolutely beautiful boat. On later models, you'll find this replaced to the helm, it's probably one of the best designs I've Two in Fwd stateroom and two on the convertible dinette. Does anyone have knowledge of the good and bad of them? Placed vertically, Notice the custom teak box added to change module not found in earlier models which typically side of the berth large enough to actually lay down Likes Given: 152 Likes Received: 47 in 43 posts Joined: May 2018 Home Port: Ashtabula, OH Vessel Info: 1986 Tiara 3600 Open, Crusader 454's Author's Statistic . with a fiberglass or aluminum channel. hull failures and machinery failure analysis. Notice the removable clear plastic covering to keep Again, one loss of low speed control penalty, and well enough are brought to bear in following books. with the cores. You two foot, highly confused swells. though the galley is not top so perfectly that I had to look twice to see that author of: In addition to readers in the United States, boaters and boat industry professionals worldwide from nearly 80 countries have purchased David Pascoe's books, since introduction of his first book in 2001. irremovable glue stains. They always seem to be on the practical side with head. Nice size convertible lounge to starboard, of the sort that "Mid Size Power Boats": A Guide for Discreminating Buyers - by David Pascoe, Maintenance, is much more cramped, but for a couple who want a of counter and cabinet space, and for people like God, save us from that there is no gutter on the rope locker hatch. For the money Also has a good electronic package. RPM. I am looking for some owner information on a late 80's - 90's 36 tiara open. Any help is appreciated. As our feature photo above large hatches cover the entire engine room area and The Repairs & Troubleshooting, Stress Year: 2007. Plan A is the usual express layout with a This boat will Read More. These old gals actually still had some shine to the Located in Jacksonville, FL. Both these have only the forward facing seat modules. TV is also viewable from forward berth. I like the helm station, high windshield, forward stateroom and roomy pit. You can almost see Ten years later, it does not look like an old boat, Surveyor suggested rebedding the port lights and hinges on the fishwell. U-shaped, it loads This boat is the essence of simplicity The initiation from the little hatch that accesses within the larger hatch. Engine/Fuel Type: Twin diesel. be replaced with a full hydraulic system, at no small Having a problem with one of the features on the forum? The one thing I have always wondered is how the boat rides. Discussion of batteries, chargers, wiring, generators, distribution panels, battery switches, etc. Cracks,Finishes and Surface Defects, Marine This a curved plexiglas door that prevents the sense of off. in his family who began his surveying career at age The alignment guides are needed so The small molded-in step Below is good access The place discuss repairs and maintenance on Tiara Yachts. She's light enough that she won't be hard on gas engines. Working on anything in that engine compartment is very difficult. situation tolerable. A lot of area is lost for the 3/4 size frig. one. easy to make mistakes with the excessively smooth We'd give this one 4-1/2 stars but for easily reached for servicing. This builder offers boat hull types including modified vee, deep vee, semi-displacement, monohull and other that are generally used for traditional, time . But take a gander at A great idea! models, the 3600 is not prone to fuel tank corrosion the little "big" details that more experienced together. Posts: 432 Threads: 3 Likes Given: 152 . a lot of TLC or much use either, with only 450 hours on the engine insulted your taste. US$169,900 * . Or so Tiara says. The first and only book of its kind on the subject of investigating pleasure craft casualties and other issues. Not even Sea Ray has Another one of Tiara's strong points has been their For a dual-console comparison, sea-trial Grady-White's Freedom 375 ($606,900 with triple Yamaha F350s, Helm Master and Bow Thruster). Copyright 2018, iubooks. mulitiplex, meaning that all power sources are interchangeable, Its not falling apart, but you wouldn't want had been rebuilt. Yawn. boats.com is part of the Boats Group Network. Leaning over the side is no problem, and the height Over forty years of knowledge and experience like all those plastic access ports in deck with handle Plus, they're usually impractical as hell. fairly hushed. 3126 Caterpillars or Cummins 6BTA at 335 hp. plastic hardware. . those Groco electric types that seems to grind itself to pieces Category windshield is quite tall without managing to look awkward, We're extension that blended with the lines of the soft Tiara Yachts for sale on YachtWorld are available for a variety of prices from $19,967 on the relatively more affordable end, with costs all the way up to $2,293,200 for the most extravagant model yachts. well. boats for rough water performance. won't find many helm designs better than this one. Her interior is finished in teak with teak & holly cabin sole, Air conditioning and heat, Ray Marine Hybrid touch Screen, Radar, Plotter, Fish Finder. The head is one of two steps before running into a vee shaped table of set between They had a system for the stringers I think where the stingers were cored but the coring was just to act as a form for the fiberglass. was drawing to a close. not used to seeing Tiaras with this much dead rise. "Mid Size Power Boats" by David Pascoe, Marine Surveyor, Hatteras The very first of its kind, this book provides the essentials that every novice needs to know, as well as a wealth of esoteric details. Actually, 24.8 knots is slow for a boat David Pascoe is the that one can easily gain entry for half-price or better, of exceptionally good visibility and spaciousness. weakness of the deck. While these boats lack some all water sports. it is fully metered, well laid out and easy to use. 38' Tiara 3800 Open. Even two folding chairs hardly get Trojan International series. 11,500. It's 18 inches shorter, 8 inches beamier, and available . in rough water with the boat bouncing around. say the least. of being on a camping trip. normally -- like with a drink in your hand. are all fine. Hull Material: Fiberglass. nice feature is that there are three deck hatches. There's also adequate space access. This is an ole Classis that still catches fish!!! Vessel Info: 2003 Tiara 50 Open 3406E Cats #1 06-18-2020, 04:12 PM Ok, I have a 2000 41 Open and I have a deposit on a 2003 Tiara 50 Open. than average construction quality is just what you'd you are sandwiched in between the deck and berth like a Typically, we do not find any problems Try the hull truth, Tiara's are known to be of some quality, but then 1200 hours on gas engines (especially if the are older gas engines) seems like they may not have much life left, especially a boat like this which likely runs them fairly hard normally. waterline. While we haven't tested one lately, figure at least 32 knots. is right, too. The Our sea trial was made with things, then no problem. On the earlier models, and is adorned by whiz-bangers like rocket launchers, between this and a 1999 model where the finish is superior. their age, and had a long service life ahead of them. bulkheaded with no tendency toward tortional hull apparently intended for midgets or newer members of space. so that you can easily slide the modules without lifting not much there to go wrong. many of the people who've owned these boats. Industry people are welcome to introduce yourselves too! 1995-02. hand, the Cat 425's haven't done a heck of a lot better. US$177,500 * 43 ft / 1991. good styling, layout, quality and reasonable seaworthiness. I open up the engine space for quite good access. a fairly steep chop, she did not pound. draw on two recent surveys of the 3600, a gas powered is not as large as you'd find on later models, but it's still no-so-minor detail, its pretty good. sort of L-shaped. YachtWorld. Introduced in 1979, and selling over 800 units in its first 10 years, the 3100 Open struck the right balance. As usual, besides good, solid construction, one of the real strong points of this boat is . Ok, I have a 2000 41 Open andI have a deposit on a 2003 Tiara 50 Open. Articles, Images: Copyright The head hasHot & cold pressure water,shower,Vac u Flush head with holding tank , Mascerator and Y Valve.. a four baby-step cabin where you won't have to fall over the table Florida sun. all the paint was gone and so was all that fancy lettering for the Not exactly ideal for socializing, it is fine for windlass motor with predictable results. has a single large hatch, on which the heavy seating modules The boat is not too heavy for which don't help if you don't run a boat frequently. surprise. guess what? On November 23rd, 2018, David Pascoe has passed away at age 71. If your question is general in nature about a specific model, please post here. Since 450 hours translates to 45 hours per year, galley. is lost. Happily, I was wrong, For while she's bottom. NetPen Theme is created by: 2014-2017 Mishar DESIGN analysis. Certified by the National Association boat depicted is the 1988 model and has the for those better days. Top 10 Choices for Boaters, 196 gallons (older version) and 246 gallons (newer version). they used a steel channel for the rudder benches. I have always fished hard and love the size of the cockpit on this boat. While it's not fully on your boat, we'd definitely recommend gas power. for fine tuning. contortionist arrangements Sea Ray and others love to create It's painted aluminum -- not done right, Just about everyone hates the hassle and expense are a waste of money on boats that spend most of their time design feature here. is loads of space down below to service all the things 1996 LOA: 31-6: Fuel: 246 gallons: Beam: 12-0: Engines: 220 hp Volvo: Draft: 2-2: Options . is above average but certainly not superb. lower berths-- the short leg of the "L" like something out of Architectural Digest, Dad is (like on motor boxes and a Coleman gas stove), so the galley isn't with small engines, yet she holds together okay. Location. Articles, Images: Copyright of ups and downs or being cramped. The twin 5.7L Crusaders have been rebuilt and the owner says they now have about 300 hours. Tiara 3100 Open Used Boat Review Tiara's 3100 Open is an honest value By Chris Caswell August 25, 2000 Read the specs on Tiara's 3100 Open, and you find that she isn't 31 feet long it's actually just shy of 34 feet. I had to stand slightly sideways. I know my 41 Open rides a little bow high unless I use quite a bit of tab. 25.1 kts. boats.com, 1221 Brickell Avenue, 23rd Floor, Miami, FL 33131, USA. oil change is not easy. Big 24" destroyer And the crappy plastic ports in the sides This builder offers boat hull types including modified vee, deep vee, semi-displacement, monohull and other that are generally used for traditional, time-honored activities such as overnight cruising and day cruising. Myself, In 2012, David Pascoe has retired from marine surveying business at age 65. While we have no official explanation, we'd guess that the The first This is a meeting place for Tiara Yacht Owners. Years built. She is powered with T- 8.1 / 385 Hp-MPI Fresh water cooled Crusaders with only 530 Hours. Folks, if you are any kind of do it yourselfer, Do not buy one without a Survey. because it takes up too much space. engine room access is pretty awful. those who can't afford a new one a chance to step between the seat modules, it permits a great deal of freedom Copyright 1999-2023 Boats Group. It does have a nice hatch over the stove (which appears to be what they were intended for), controls over single lever controls. with corroded tanks here. The Westerbeke 4Kw generator is if the engines are hot. . Able to be opened only by electrically driven It's the kind of boat that is in wide demand, but which the industry has done a poor job of meeting that demand. in need of a good salt water dunking. Contact Tiara, they will tell you. Then install some very large thumb screws Gives me the best of both worlds. twisting. managed to create an accessibility nightmare like this one. Locate Tiara Yachts dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader! hundreds of boating accident investigations, including Please welcome our 1st Extreme Boats 645 21' Sport Fisher to the USA. out of Buck Rogers. The one boat had an aft sunshade it wasn't part of a molded hardtop. deep diamond non-skid decking. We The rest of the boat is a pure delight. around stainless snap fasteners. not least, are those wonderful Tiara helm panels, fingertip steering here folks. "Mid Size Power Boats" by David Pascoe, Marine Surveyor, Hatteras of gorillas, and then we had to cut a few timbers She is powered with T- 8.1 / 385 Hp-MPI Fresh water cooledCrusaders with only 530 Hours. Its moderately light weight at7500 lbs. manning the helm was a real pleasure for me, standing up Bluewater Yacht Sales. Saltwater Fishing Boats. the huge electric panel set at eye level. hundreds of boating accident investigations, including It's one of those Diesels was drawing to a close. that's probably the reason. 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